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Shannon
01-10-2008, 02:44 PM
What do you think of open marriages?
How can they work successfully?
Do you know anyone with an open marriage?

Here is some context, from Oprah.com, where she spoke with a couple in an open marriage. I thought it was really interesting.

Hollie and Gregg say they are a typical couple. Gregg is a computer programmer and Hollie is a stay-at-home mom. They met as teenagers when they worked together as camp counselors and have been married for almost 12 years. Hollie says she and Gregg are best friends and soul mates. Gregg says he and Hollie are "meant for each other."

Hollie enjoys reading, playing violin and knitting. Gregg's hobbies include reading, hiking, camping and fencing. They love their two children, and their marriage, they say, has never been better. But there's one thing about Hollie and Gregg's life together that's a little more unconventional.

Like 7 percent of women and 14 percent of men who answered a poll on Oprah.com, Hollie and Gregg say they have an open marriage.

When they said their vows, Gregg and Hollie say they had every intention of having a traditional, monogamous marriage. However, during a long car trip Gregg asked Hollie—who says she had never had sex with anyone besides Gregg—if she was curious about being with someone else. "And I said, 'Well, nothing's missing. I don't need it. I don't really think about it,'" Hollie says. "But sure, I mean, if you're curious, if you've only had one partner your whole life, I mean, sure, you'd wonder what it would be like with somebody else."

After that, they say, the option of having a relationship outside of the marriage—not becoming swingers—was left open. "Neither of us are really into casual sex, so we knew that nothing would happen right away," Gregg says.

Eventually Hollie started dating and eventually sleeping with one of their mutual friends. Gregg says he's flirted with other women but hasn't started an outside relationship of his own. Hollie stresses that their arrangement does not mean her marriage lacks something. "It's not like I get something from my sweetie that I don't get from Gregg," she says. "I mean, it's more a complement."

"She just has more love in her life," Gregg says. "It doesn't take anything away from what the two of us have."

In an Oprah.com poll, nearly 20 percent of male and female viewers said a happy open marriage is possible. When asked they were in an open marriage, 7 percent of women and 14 percent of men said yes. Are open marriages becoming more common? "Well, what I would say is this. Monogamy is not hardwired, monogamy is a choice," she says. "But that being said, what is hardwired is jealousy and envy and competition. These are normal human emotions and they're difficult to control."

"Only a third of marriages survive an affair and there's a reason for that," Dr. Saltz says. "It is very hard to get past those feelings of jealousy and hurt and betrayal. 'Do I really have all of you? Are you really mine?'"

~Lil Mama~
01-10-2008, 03:08 PM
I can't think of a way that it would work. Maybe that's cause I wouldn't ever consider it myself and wouldn't put up with a guy who wanted to do it.

MynTop
01-10-2008, 03:14 PM
I knew of a couple that had an open relationship because the wife was bisexual. The first time the husband walked in on the wife with her girlfriend however the shit hit the fan. He was all for it when it was just talking but actually witnessing it or hearing about it drove him crazy. So, no I don't think it will be successful and happy. That same couple (very dear friends of mine btw) are still together but no longer in an "open marraige"

Ellen
01-10-2008, 03:20 PM
No, I don't think in the long run it can work.

Lux
01-10-2008, 04:16 PM
I think it could work. I'll be the odd one out. I definitely wouldn't like to have an open marriage myself, but I can see it working as long as it's not being done right in front of each other (unless your spouse likes that sort of thing).

Ellen
01-10-2008, 04:17 PM
I think there's too much 'risk'......

Brandi
01-10-2008, 04:38 PM
It can maybe work for a while, but I think that ultimately jealousy would set in and I don't think I know of any marriage that it's ever worked long term for. Being in an open marriage is so contradictory though, to begin with. Why even marry if you're not really going to be married? I don't get it and I don't think it could ever work long term. I can't imagine being 50 years old and being happy with my marriage where my husband's never truly been just mine.

Ellen
01-10-2008, 04:40 PM
It can maybe work for a while, but I think that ultimately jealousy would set in and I don't think I know of any marriage that it's ever worked long term for. Being in an open marriage is so contradictory though, to begin with. Why even marry if you're not really going to be married? I don't get it and I don't think it could ever work long term. I can't imagine being 50 years old and being happy with my marriage where my husband's never truly been just mine.

That's exactly how I feel Brandi!

Daydreamer
01-10-2008, 04:50 PM
I honestly dont see the point of it! If you arent committed to each other exclusively, how is that really a marriage? The whole point of marriage (in my eyes) is that you are fully committed to each other. Otherwise you might as well just be friends with benefits. :dunno

It may be able to work for some people, but it would never work for me. I also wouldnt consider that a real marriage in my eyes, i would consider it a joke of a marriage. But that is just me.

Lux
01-10-2008, 04:53 PM
I do find it contradictory myself as well. I wouldn't get married if there was ever a doubt in my mind I might want to be with other people. I can't imagine any couple ever being married, let's say, less than 6-7 years and actually wanting an open marriage from the start. I think open marriage is what comes when the couple is totally drained of the romantic side of their marriage and can't figure out what to do next. So they start thinking someone else could do it for them, but then they still love their husband/wife and want to stay with them. I think it's something that sets in later on in a marriage when they're both tired of each other but aren't willing to cut their spouse loose. That's the only way I could see 2 people who love each other being ok with seeing their mate with someone else. And, in which case, they would both agree on it, and could make it work for them.

J-Ly
01-10-2008, 07:14 PM
I know a couple who are in an open marriage, I don't quite understand how they can be happy, but they are. When they are together, they are together, exclusively, but when one of them travels and one is home, they each have a partner set up so that neither one will be alone on the trip, or at home. If they're happy and it works for them, then that's their prerogative.

As I say, to each their own, but I just can't see how it works at all. It just makes a complete mockery of marriage, plain and simple.

'Reen
01-17-2008, 11:13 PM
for some people, maybe....

for me...NO WAY!!!! i would not be able to do that

Wicked
01-18-2008, 03:00 AM
Marriage isn't the same thing to everyone, nor should it be. Hell, sex isn't even the same thing to everyone. I believe that as long as both people know what they are getting into and have the same philosophy, I don't see why it wouldn't work. Sure it isn't for everyone. It isn't even for most people. But there are SO MANY different kinds of people in this world so one singular definition of what a marriage should or should not be is NOT going to fit everyone.